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(Posted: 25 Oct 2005 22:21 Last Edited By: BB King) Registered User Currently Offline
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The best R&B guitarist of all time is not on this list! Give me a break.
PS They're not my topic, but where are Little Richard and Bo Diddley
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(Posted: 27 Oct 2005 13:20 ) Administrator Currently Offline
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Not sure about this - might well merit a place as a link between R&B and rock & roll like Fats Domino (already included on the Shades site), definitely as a great songwriter and performer, but best R&B guitarist of all time? Think there might just be a few more candidates for that title - what do others think?
Little Richard - a definite maybe
Bo Diddley - sorry, never really rated him - and even as a Primer, this site is still sometimes influenced by a purely personal antipathy
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Guest (Posted: 06 Nov 2005 17:22 )
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Great performer, great writer but great guitarist - nah!
Still should be represented on the Shades site though
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(Posted: 28 Nov 2005 01:05 Last Edited By: BB King) Registered User Currently Offline
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Alright not the greatest, but great writer, great performer and great guitarist. Let me show you something.
1. Steve Cropper (60's sessions, Booker T & the Mg's)
2. Bo Diddley
3. B.B. King
4. Ernie Isley (The Isley Brothers)
5. Chuck Berry
6. Jimmy Nolen (The J.B.'s)
7. Albert King
8. Curtis Mayfield (The Impressions)
9. Robert Cray
10. Mickey "Guitar" Baker (50's session guitarist)
11. Eddie Hazel (Funkadelic)
12. Peter Tosh (The Wailers)
13. Joe Messina (The Funk Brothers, Motown sessions)
14. Nile Rodgers (Chic)
15. Leo Nocentelli (The Meters)
16. Robert White (The Funk Brothers, Motown sessions)
17. Marv Tarplin (The Miracles)
18. Sister Rosetta Thorpe
19. Lowman Pauling (The 5" Royales)
20. Snooks Eaglin
21. Eddie Willis (The Funk Brothers, Motown sessions)
22. Robert Ward (Ohio Untouchables)
23. Duane Allman (60's session guitarist)
24. Bobby Womack
25. Prince
26. "Wah Wah" Watson (70's session guitarist)
27. Johnny 'Guitar' Watson
28. Ike Turner
29. Reggie Young (60's and 70's session guitarist)
30. Roebuck "Pops" Staples (The Staple Singers)
31. Dennis Coffey (70's session guitarist)
32. Bob Marley
33. Jimmy Johnson (The Muscle Shoals)
34. Floyd McDaniel (The Four Blazes)
35. Carl Hogan (Tympany Five)
36. Freddie Stewart (Sly & the Family Stone)
37. Micheal Hampton (Funkadelic)
38. Walter "Papoose" Nelson (guitarist for Fats Domino)
39. Mabon "Teenie" Hodges (backing guitarist for Al Green)
40. Pete "Guitar" Lewis (backing guitarist for Johnny Otis)
41. Chips Moman (60's and 70's session guitarist)
42. Al McKay (Watts 103rd Street Rhythm Band)
43. Arthur Porter (The Midnighters)
44. Billy Butler (50's Session guitarist)
45. Lucius Tawl Ross (Funkadelic)
46. Dewey Terry (Don & Dewey)
47. Rene Hall (50's Session guitarist)
48. Catfish Collins (Funkadelic)
49. Vernon Burch (The Bar-Kays)
50. Charles Wright (Watts 103rd Street Rhythm Band)
www.digitaldreamdoor.com's 50 greatest R&B/Soul guitarists, and rRolling Stone Magazine has Berry as the 6th greatest guitarist of all time. And look where Diddley is.
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(Posted: 03 Dec 2005 20:04 ) Registered User Currently Offline
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Interesting list, and Berry was certainly right up there in terms of influence, if not technique. But a list like this one is always going to be a bt partial, is it not? For example, if you can pop B.B. and Albert King in here, then why not T-Bone Walker, who had to be one of the biggest influences on everyone (blues, soul, you name it) who followed him.
...and Curtis Mayfield at number 8. Surely positioned for his influence as a writer and producer rather than any outstanding contribution as a guitarist
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(Posted: 04 Dec 2005 22:14 ) Registered User Currently Offline
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Definitely a strange old list - Steve Cropper is always up there and always overrated - good but not that good. Wayne Bennett was the great guitarist behind so many of Bobby Bland's fine performances and doesn't even get a look in. Good to see Robert Ward in there and a mention for Jimmy Johnson, who played on so many of Aretha's great sides - but behind Prince, Jimmy Nolen etc! I don't think so
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Guest (Posted: 19 Apr 2006 10:47 Last Edited By: Guest)
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Luther Allison,anyone?Buddy Guy?Admittedly Guy is not well represented on disc,not least because of his own eccentricities and (understandable)desire to make a living.He's heard to best advantage on other people's discs...perhaps most impressively on Howlin' Wolf's E.P.featuring "Goin' Down Slow".Magic!!!
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Guest (Posted: 19 Apr 2006 11:11 )
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Certainly Steve Cropper deserves a high place in the development of soul music,Memphis chapter.Apart from coining a whole new style of guitar playing(white boy country picking meets the blues)and his "less is more"approach(don't you always wish he'd play just a little bit more?)A tribute to his immaculate taste,no guitar heroics from him.It's worth mentioning the sociological aspect of the "Stax"enterprise.A completely integrated recording studio and live band(including the "Mar Keys")M.Gs plus 2 (white)sax players and black trumpeter?.This in the early 60's,Tennessee.I know they played live gigs,I used to have a crappily recorded live C.D,but it was recorded at some northern U.S.university campus,as I recall.I wonder if they gigged in the South.Anyone enlighten me?Seth.I.
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Guest (Posted: 21 Apr 2006 11:01 Last Edited By: Guest)
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Little Richard would be in the piano section...Duuuuuh......
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Guest (Posted: 21 Apr 2006 11:37 )
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I can kind of see the point to some of the list.If the criterion is INSTANT identifiability,then Diddley.Cropper,Berry and Mayfield(and others)deserve their placing,though if this were consistent,surely Muddy Waters would be well up there.Sister Rosetta Tharpe (sic)is a bit of an anomaly.I saw her in the early 60's(Gospel /Blues tour)I remember she was extremely LOUD a .plus point in my book,There was a time when blues performers were told that audiences didn't like it loud,because they were all academics and sociologists.Bollocks.....
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Guest (Posted: 07 Feb 2007 01:42 )
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I have to agree with westgrandbaby. My daddy the late great master of the guitar WAYNE T. BENNETT should be up there in the top 5. He was the man behind many and I do mean many of Bobby Blue Bland's hits, not to mention Mighty Sam and others he's played with. I mean did someone have a brain fart?
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